Mollohan Mulls Cap and Trade
By JOSELYN KING Political WriterWHEELING - U.S. Rep. Alan Mollohan may be willing to support a proposed "Cap and Trade" bill if it contains the proper concessions for the coal industry.
During a recent visit to Wheeling, Mollohan, D-W.Va., said he believes the climate control legislation currently before the U.S. Senate will be amended to the point that it passes through Congress. He stressed that West Virginia needs to be prepared for such a bill.
"It's important for us in West Virginia to be open to the fact 'Cap and Trade' could get there," he said.
Mollohan hinted he might support such legislation if proper concessions are made - particularly if those concessions assure the continued use of West Virginia coal by electric utility companies.
Mollohan was not in attendance earlier this month when West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin hosted an energy summit in Charleston. Fellow U.S. Reps. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., and Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va., were present, as were U.S. Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., and an aide to U.S. Sen. Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va.
Manchin's office confirmed that Mollohan was invited, and that he wasn't able to attend.
Mollohan said a prior scheduling commitment kept him from the summit.
Mollohan voted against "Cap and Trade" when it narrowly passed the Democratic House last summer, citing concerns about a resulting increase in utility costs. The final vote on that bill was 219-212.
Under "Cap and Trade," the federal government would set limits on the amount of pollutants that can be emitted into the atmosphere.
Businesses that produce certain gases would be issued permits granting them a specific number of credits that would allow them to produce some emissions.
Those needing more credits then could buy them through a central authority from businesses who have reduced their amount of carbon emissions.
Mollohan said that utility companies "almost" were ready to support the bill that eventually passed the U.S. House.
"Concessions were made, and it just about got there," he commented.
The Senate is now considering its version of climate control legislation.
U.S. Rep. Charles Wilson, D-Ohio, also voted against the "Cap and Trade" bill. He said the Senate's bill must protect coal to receive his support.
"I have always said that any energy legislation must protect consumers and industries in my district. Coal is a vital industry to Ohio's Sixth District, and I believe that coal must and will play a major role in our nation's transition to energy independence. I don't believe the House bill reflected that reality," he said.
"In Ohio, 86 percent of our electricity comes from coal. And the vast majority of that coal comes from Appalachian Ohio. Because we are located in an area of the country that heavily relies on coal to turn on the lights and heat our homes, Ohio families and her energy intensive industries, like steel, would bear the brunt of the cost from the House version of the climate change legislation. I hope that the Senate version fully reflects coals' importance to our energy portfolio."
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JamesT
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04-14-10 11:59 AM
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Attorney General Eric Holder dropped ethics charges against corrupt Alan Mollohan in exchange for votes from Healthcare to Cap & Trade. He will do as Obama, Pelosi, Ried orders him to do. He will still use tax payers money and lobbyist kickback to buy more ilegal property in Florida and garner more millions of dollars without an explanation or accountability. mollohan represents lobbyist NOT YOU!!!
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Wheeldog
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12-03-09 4:08 PM
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Each day I scan the web pages of several newspapers from across the country. I helps to give a general perspective of how key regions and communities are reporting on important issues. Today, I happened to see an interesting article in the Fairbanks Daily Newsminer paper on global warming. This paper ranks among the most conservative in my reading list. The article describes how major adjustments are being made in the face of climate change impacts. This includes oil companies placing special devices to slow the thawing of the permafrost along the Alaska Pipeline. The pipeline company obviously takes global warming seriously and is rushing to prevent it from causing oil flow problems.
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12-01-09 9:00 PM
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Didn't mean to jump hard there, Dolph..... The eco-nazis do this kind of "One Reason" crap and I just wanted to head you off that track.
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dolphin3111
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12-01-09 7:23 PM
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React - Yes, the arrogance is astounding at the CRU and elsewhere !!
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dolphin3111
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12-01-09 7:21 PM
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React - Thanks. I will concede to you that the Sun is not the one and only factor. I was trying to drive a point home and could have worded that better.
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12-01-09 4:23 PM
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dolph...I might argue about the Sun being the "One" source of Earth's climate. There are just too many variables in play here. Variables that are of a Natural Source. I personally never did buy into Arthopogenic Global warming. That reeks of human arrogance and conceit. And with all the "raw data" destroyed so it can't be challanged is just a little too much to be taken as an 'accident'! And what is truely alarming and sick and arrogant, is the FACT that those that support this crap expect the rest of us to just "take their word" that it is the truth. The eco-frauds must truely believe that the rest of the World is STUPID!
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dolphin3111
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12-01-09 12:31 PM
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JamesT - Correct ! Warming has peaked and the temperature is now dropping according to "REAL" Scientists. The stratosphere is warming and the troposphere is cooling indicating that the heat (Btu) is escaping now. The Sun, not CO2 is in full control of the climate on earth.
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cory1978
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12-01-09 11:48 AM
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tmoore 11-30-09 7:10 PM »Report Abuse Cory has been reading the phony climate reports!!!!!!! wtf????? Global warming is a joke...what are you talking about? The flooding will be because of the hydro electric dams that are needed because coal is a 4 letter word....maybe I didn't explain myself enough....sorry
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JamesT
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12-01-09 10:46 AM
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Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere along with a posited commencement of glaciation. This hypothesis never had significant scientific support, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of press reports that did not accurately reflect the scientific understanding of ice age cycles, and a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s. General scientific opinion is that the Earth has not durably cooled, but undergone global warming throughout the 20th century. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Ka Ching!
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JamesT
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12-01-09 10:45 AM
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Wheeldog- We CANNOT even put a dent in changing climate period. Slick Willy said the other day, " Global Warming can actually cause Global Cooling as we see in Greenland". It's simply smoking mirrors and the shell game. During the boom of the Industrial Revolution, we spewed more so - called Greenhouse Gasses than we have over the past quarter century, yet it was cold as a witches mitt! The left wants it both ways.We are now seeing and hearing from scientist how they were ordered and threaten to change data to appease the environmentalist who have gained financially and otherwise gfrom these bogus reports. During periods of the Earth's geological past, we know that the climate was much hotter and much colder as the ice ages repeated over and over. Weird Al Gore REFUSES to debate scientist and is pocketing millions from his scare tactics. Our coal fields were created during the time the eqator was closer to North America and we were a tropical jungle then.
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Thoughtful
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11-30-09 11:14 PM
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Congressman Mollohan is using the oldest trick in the world What you see is NOT what you get!!! I challenge the Congressman to read his own party's leadership comments concerning COAL. Listen carefully, Harry Reid, coal will make you sick and we don't want or need it. Henry Waxman, no coal no way no how ! Nancy Pelosi, we have many other options than coal, It is bad for us. That is the leadership of the Democratic Party. Forget Mollohan and how he will vote. He has been given cover on this issue and does not represent his district. Replace Alan Mollohan.............
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dolphin3111
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11-30-09 10:49 PM
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Wheeldog, Your posts are starting to become more and more hallucinogenic. Calm down. Everything is going to be all right. Latest satellite measurements of the Stratosphere indicate that it is warming in general and that the troposphere is cooling in general. This indicates that any warming on earth is escaping and that there is a strong tendency toward temperature stabilization and that runaway temperature increases are not happening. The earth is not burning up. In fact, just the opposite. Back in the world of politics (I’m sorry, “science”), we learn today (Nov. 30) that ALL of the raw temperature data that the Univ. of East Anglia CRU has been DESTROYED. All that remains is their fudged data. How convenient. What a bunch of JUNK science ! Yes Wheeldog, it is political. It’s totally about the “redistribution of wealth”, not just within the US but worldwide. This global warming conspiracy is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind.
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Wheeldog
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11-30-09 9:50 PM
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(cont.) There is no one more than me who hopes I am wrong. However, climate change is not a liberal conspiracy perpetrated by people who are trying to destroy America and enslave us in a godless dictatorship - despite what Glen Beck and Rush say. We are most certainly moving into a new and likely more dynamic climate pattern. Hang on. The ride is about to get interesting.
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Wheeldog
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11-30-09 9:37 PM
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James, FOVR et al, I enjoy the interchange and appreciate your points of view. However, I remain convinced that we are playing with tiger as we release increasing amounts of CO2, methane and other ghg into the atmosphere. We can and certainly are having a measurable impact on our planet, including its climate. As the climate warms it is setting off self-reinforcing mechanisms in the form of melting permafrost and thawing of carbon hydrates. Frankly, I believe the process is no longer within our control and will run its course in the years to come - likely into the hundreds+. The two prime issues are; will we make it worse, and can we adapt? Both are open questions. Modern civilization is a complex, energy intensive system that requires all parts to interactively work together. The system is already under heavy stress due to environmentally related disruptions.
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formerohvalleyresident
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11-30-09 8:07 PM
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Wheeldog, come on, CO2 didn’t “die with animals”, it is produced by combustion of carbon-based fuels. As far as the ocean rise, from Ian Pilmer: " At the end of the last glaciation, temperature fluctuated wildly. At one time there was a 15C natural temperature rise in 20 years. Now THAT is global warming. Yet still, humans thrived. The peak of the current interglacial was 6,000 years ago when the sea level was almost an inch higher than now and temperatures were 5C higher than at present. Sea levels rose by 2cm per year between 12,000 and 6,000 years ago - still part of the present interglacial - a degree of change far greater than anything observed today.During the last glaciation, land loaded with ice sank. That land is now rising. For example, Scotland and Wales are rising and eastern England is sinking. During the last glaciation, people walked from Europe to England, from Russia to Alaska and from Papua New Guinea to Tasmania. The English Channel was a river."
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JamesT
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11-30-09 7:43 PM
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Climatologist report that the Earth has been in a flux from extreme heat to extreme cold from " Natural " causes. From tectonics, volcanic, and occilatory cycles. The next super volcano, according to volcanologist, say it is under Yellowstone National Park. When this baby blows, we could lose up towards 90% of life as during the immediate extinction from the dinosaur period did. The average temperatures of the planet is actually cooler over the last ten years to uncorrupt data. We see data fudging for political and monetary gain. Fake science and liars figuring. More is coming out of the lies from government to private investors feeding the Global Warming hoax. Next, ACORN will collect data!
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JamesT
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11-30-09 7:35 PM
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Thirty years ago I was in collge studying how mna made pollution was responsible for the upcoming " Global Ice Age ". I still have a few txtbooks from then. The 1970's were terribly cold and the idea of getting money from research and attacking America was very popular with the left back then. We have seen people using fear for dollars. Weird Al Gore is poised to become a billionaire over this. Obama has determined yet another scheme to redistribute wealth from American manufacturers to other countries. Ever notice it is the Democratic Party hill bent on attacking American industry and protecting foriegn manufacturers? What ever happened to the ozone Layer/Hole? Oh, thats right, its a natural phenomena. Fact is that Mount Saint Hellen's spewed more " Greenhouse " pollutants than anythhing man could EVER produce. The Oil/Gas wells that the Iraqi's Saddam Husien set off back in 1992, the evironmentalist said it will cause a nuclear winter. Now, they say the polar ic
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Wheeldog
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11-30-09 7:27 PM
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(cont.) ... to eventually become coal, gas and oil. As we burn these carbon based fuels we are releasing the captured CO2 back into the atmosphere and essentially recreating climate conditions that existed before modern man appeared on earth.
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Wheeldog
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11-30-09 7:24 PM
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"...your data is completely bogus, the current CO2 concentration is about 384 ppm. About 50-100 million years ago it was 2000 ppm..." FOVR FOVR, my mistake! I apologize for the wrong figures. No excuse. I was hurrying and messed up. The actual figures are roughly 385 ppm with an expectation of 390 ppm by next year. These numbers are part of a report put out by the Mauna Loa Climate Observatory in Hawaii. The climatologists issuing the report refer to the trend as a "worst case scenario" and comment that 390 ppm is in excess of any level reached during the past 1 million years. The Age of the Dinosaurs to which you refer is much, much older. At that time there were forests in Antarctic and no massive ice sheets. If all existing ice caps were to melt oceans would rise by roughly 250 ft. During ancient time when the earth was far warmer there definitely was more CO2 in the atmosphere. Much of it was captured by living organisms and buried to eventually be
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tmoore
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11-30-09 7:10 PM
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Cory has been reading the phony climate reports!!!!!!!
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formerohvalleyresident
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11-30-09 5:37 PM
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Wheeldog, your data is completely bogus, the current CO2 concentration is about 384 ppm. About 50-100 million years ago it was 2000 ppm when the earth was lush and dinosaurs were the top of the food chain. It was as high as 8000 ppm at the beginning of time. Check out Wikipedia and other refs. Climate has NEVER been a constant; the earth has undergone at least 6 Ice ages with packs as much as 5000 foot deep. The total temperature rise from 1900 to 1998 has been LOST between 1998 and 2009, so we are back to roughly the same as 1900. The computer model that was used to project a continuous temperature increase has been shown to be incorrect, even the scientists who WROTE the program have documented the errors in assumptions and calculations they made, which is why it does not predict the current state.
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11-30-09 5:15 PM
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dolph....You touched on an interesting point. Why is it that the US can develope the technology to analyze gases trapped in rocks, read the dust from a moon impact to "discover" water on the Moon, and we still have 10.2% unemployment and rising? It just doesn't make sense! We can do all these things but we can't get people back to gainful employment.
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dolphin3111
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11-30-09 5:04 PM
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Wheeldog, I saw on TV over the weekend where geologists believe there was a time on earth when the CO2 concentration was at least 100 times what it is now. They supposedly figured that out by analyzing rock strata. Do you know anything about that?
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dolphin3111
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11-30-09 4:53 PM
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React - Yes, despite our differences, I think Wheeldog is a "REAL" person and not some whacko.
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11-30-09 4:43 PM
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dolph...I know what you mean."Wheeldog" did okay for an opposition player. At least he made an inpassioned move towards "G/W", without the name-calling. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not to their own facts. And as more news on these e-mails comes public and shows the eco-frauds for what they are, it will be harder for the "true believers" to hide behind emotional pleas to keep the lies alive!
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