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Capito Correct To Be Cautious

By The Intelligencer
POSTED: November 10, 2009

U.S. Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va., is asking a question that should have been answered before her peers in the House of Representatives approved a health care bill Saturday night. The fact that a majority of lawmakers voted in favor of the bill before getting answers such as that sought by Capito is disturbing, to say the least.

Capito was one of 215 members of the House who voted against the health care bill. Unfortunately, they were outvoted by 220 lawmakers, including Reps. Alan Mollohan and Nick Rahall, both D-W.Va.

As we have pointed out, unnecessarily hasty action on the bill was demanded by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. The slim majority of lawmakers who went along with her seemed to see nothing wrong in voting on a bill without understanding its potential ramifications.

Capito and others who voted against the proposal believed more time should be provided to investigate the nearly 2,000-page bill. One question on Capito's mind is how approval of the measure would affect the state of West Virginia.

One provision in the bill would expand the federal-state Medicaid program. Washington would pay 91 percent of the cost of growth. States would have to cover the remainder.

Capito has asked the state Department of Health and Human Resources for an estimate of the burden the bill, if enacted, would place on West Virginia taxpayers.

Medicaid already costs the state about $545 million a year. That represents about one-fourth of the total cost of the existing program. Clearly, allowing more people to sign up for Medicaid could be a very expensive proposition.

Neither Mollohan nor Rahall seem to have worried about that. Apparently it was not a decisive factor in the thinking of the two other Mountain State members of the House, or 218 of their peers.

All 220 of those who voted in favor of the bill did so because Pelosi and other liberal leaders in the House told them it was a good idea - not as a result of careful examination of the measure.

Capito and others who decided they could not vote in favor of the proposal without knowing more about its costs and benefits were right. Rushing to follow Pelosi's orders and vote for a bill that could dump a gigantic new burden on the backs of West Virginia taxpayers is, quite simply, wrong.

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Reactionary
11-12-09 10:22 PM
I saw "Slick Willie" on TV the other night confering with the bigshot dems on Capital Hill.

He was saying "Go for it"! "Pass something, anything now, and worry about details later"!

NOw let me ask the libbies in here, would you really want your DOCTOR to proceed like that? Just do something and worry about the details later? Like when you go in for Brain surgery or heart surgery?

Yeah!....That's it, just DO SOMETHING and worry about the details later. Is that how you really want your Govt. to work?

Remember, you and your children are going to pay for it?

Reactionary
11-11-09 6:57 PM
WVEXPAT---There you go, mudding up the water with facts again.

The libbies don't care where the money comes from, just as long as they get their GovT goodies. If business has to be taxed MORE, ao be it. Then they can pay more for the things they need, still thinking they're getting something for "free"!

And I have no clue where you would find a "rich man" in WV, unless of course, you started looking at WV politicians!!! Yeah,...TAX THOSE RICH MEN!!!

WVEXPAT
11-11-09 6:26 PM
She also stated "A second issue souring me on this bill is its failure to include the most common-sense clause to increase competition and drive down prices: portability of health insurance across state lines. What covert business interests is the Democratic leadership protecting by stopping consumers from shopping for policies nationwide?"

And also, "And why are we even considering so gargantuan a social experiment when the nation is struggling to emerge from a severe recession? It's as if liberals are starry-eyed dreamers lacking the elementary ability to project or predict the chaotic and destabilizing practical consequences of their utopian fantasies."

And about Republicans, "Republicans, on the other hand, have basically sat on their******about healthcare reform for the past 20 years and have shown little interest in crafting legislative solutions to social inequities".

WVEXPAT
11-11-09 6:22 PM
I read Camille Paglia's article. In the article she asks "why can't my fellow Democrats see that the creation of another huge, inefficient federal bureaucracy would slow and disrupt the delivery of basic healthcare and subject us all to a labyrinthine mass of incompetent, unaccountable petty dictators?"

WVEXPAT
11-11-09 6:18 PM
Interesting point ATodd.

The NY Times reports that Medicare premiums will increase 15% next year. However, the House passed a bill to limit the increases at the Federal level, which means the States will have to make up the difference.

Can anyone guess where the states (especially WV) might find the money to pay for this?

EllisWyatt
11-11-09 6:11 PM
I could comment on this topic forever but I think Camille Paglia, the talented liberal writer, hit the nail on the head when she called this bill a $1.2 trillion waste.

Another point she made, and which I have said for months, is how do you add 43 million new patients, with no corresponding increase in providers, without rationing? She also said that Congress should not be exempt from the plan, that our system needs changes, not overhaul and that we should not attempt such a massive task when we are still in a recession.

I disagree with Paglia quite often but at least she is a mature liberal in the old school vein. She disagrees with conservatives but respects their right to speak. She uses logic and reason. And she is a very fine writer.

There! I praised a liberal!

atoddh
11-11-09 5:27 PM
XPAT: Medicaid and the new Medicare cover all drugs. Between the poor and the elderly,WV will be a bonanza for the drug makers.Providers(hospitals) may have a problem if price controls are put in place.Vast numbers of WV citizens will qualify for Medicaid with this bill.

WVEXPAT
11-11-09 4:14 PM
From today's Huffington Post;

"The deal struck between the pharmaceutical lobby, the White House and Senate Democrats has drastically improved Big Pharma's expected profits, a private industry report finds.

IMS Health, a company that supplies the pharmaceutical companies with sales data, predicts that new health reform legislation -- combined with a projected upswing in the economy -- will result in a net gain of more than $137 billion in total market sales over the next four years."

From the Center for Responsive Politics (OpenSecrets dot org);

$7,076,024 in direct campaign contributions this year from Pharma to our politicians (57% to Dems).

2010 PAC Contributions to Federal Candidates;

$4,500,108 (61% to Dems)

I'm guessing all these events are just total coincidences!!!!

SSDD

atoddh
11-11-09 3:28 PM
As WV employment declines,Medicaid enrollment will increase.WV is already the poorest or second poorest state.A huge number of WV resdidents will quilify for Medicaid under the proposed bill.Meanwhile nothing meaningful has or is being done to enhance the WV economy.Upwards of 80% of WVU grads will leave the State this yaer to find opportunity elsewhere.

TruthSeeker
11-11-09 2:26 PM
*yawn*

Barney and Jay will see to it that we get a public option.

Reactionary
11-11-09 8:58 AM
Gym, Popeye & Uncommonsense--I agree with you guys and your various points. The total being, 'Throw this crap out and start over with something that will really work'

However that is unlikely to happen unless the Senate "KILLS" the d*mn thing there.

There HAS TO BE a better way than spending 1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS on crap!!

NancySI
11-11-09 7:59 AM
wvhoopie, did you hear about Hannity and FauxNoise showing film of the September teabagger hate gathering and telling its whacked out viewers it was film of their hate meeting from the other day? Funny how all the leaves turned back to green in November. Unbelievable.

NancySI
11-11-09 7:52 AM
"unnecessarily hasty action"? WTF Its been known for years, health care reform is needed.

Instead of always whining, threatening violence, misrepresenting the facts, showing a lack of civility and name calling, maybe right wing wackos and teabaggers should spend more time in honest work to fix the mess they left this great country in.

The strategy of the repubs and their whacked out fringe extremists is to keep the President from fixing anything in this country, because everytime he does, he simply proves, REPUBS CAN"T GOVERN and TEABAGGERS HAVE NO SOLUTIONS.

Have a great day.

It really is that simple. Same old, same old.

wvhoopie
11-10-09 7:20 PM
Ellis, if it is a moot point, why do you continue to rail about it?

Blackrock
11-10-09 6:08 PM
Ellis, you are correct. The proposed health care bill is uncontitutional and will be ruled so if and when it is passed and if and when the case reaches the Supreme Court.

EllisWyatt
11-10-09 6:05 PM
Socialized medicine is Unconstitutional so this debate is a moot point.

I find it strange that liberals oppose a military service requirement yet think nothing of a 5-year prison sentence or $250,000 fine for refusing to buy health insurance!

Our government is out of control. I should not have to support others' every whim. I want a Gulfstream 550. Will taxpayers give it to me? NO. Should they? NO.

I think it is time to start looking at alternatives to the current Two-Party, Big Government system. It is too bad that Ron Paul is such a kook. If the messenger is kooky, nobody will believe the message.

Both Dems and Repubs come out in public and give speeches against each other. Later, they retire to the Senate dining hall and laugh at the "idiot public" over their bean soup.

vietnamvet
11-10-09 5:30 PM
PIMP - if you go to Capito's web site you can email her from there - all you have to know is the right zip code. But if she isn't your Rep. you may not know it. Lets talk about how crooked our Rep. is.

vietnamvet
11-10-09 5:22 PM
Jeep - Don't know about Rahall but I don't think Mollahan can read. I've sent him all kinds of mail/Faxes with questions but haven't recieve any thing back from him.

USMCDeathPimp
11-10-09 5:17 PM
Capito doesnt even have constituent email. anyone that thinks that she is not as corrupt as her blacklung fund stealing father are really out of touch.

WVJeep
11-10-09 4:09 PM
I would like to know if Mollahan or Rahall even read the bill? I would say "No"....

popeye
11-10-09 12:17 PM
We need leaders that are pro-American with no dual citizenship. We need leaders that want to protect our borders. We need leaders that control our own foreign policy and not that of other countries. We need leaders that want to abolish the Fed Reserve and evert back to our own system of money as stated in the Constitution. We need to stop putting in our puppet govt's in other countries in order to control their natural resources. Think about it.

acousticportal
11-10-09 12:09 PM
The light often is clouded by hatred and animosity amongst our own people. This must be cleared and Americans united, before any true progress, let alone a revolution can happen. A revolution of the minority is currently called a teabag party.

popeye
11-10-09 11:24 AM
How long have I been telling this message board that the 2 party system is corrupt and a failure. What is it going to take to convince you people? Are we starting to see the light?

Thebudman
11-10-09 11:09 AM
Vote'm all out!

popeye
11-10-09 11:09 AM
I tried to tell you folks that big pharma and big health care had a seat at the table with this bill. You better listen to your Uncle Popeye.

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