In the Senate 2 things can happen, They will pass THEIR version or they won't. If they don't pass their bill,...Who Knows?

If they pass THEIR version,it then goes to confrence to TRY to work out differences between the two bills. It will either pass or it won't.If they don't reconcile, it's over!

If it DOES INDEED PASS,...THEN both houses of Congress have to vote on the confrense bill all over.

In the end there will either be a watered down bill that only vaguely resembles the House bill or there will be NO BILL at all.

Heard of this process on the news this evening.

So it ain't over yet,....not by a long shot!

You and the other Socialists on here have clearly proven that you do not value property rights. Since you feel that you have a right to lay claim to the wealth and earnings of your fellow citizens, I must ask that you live up to your own standards and make your property available to your neighbors.

Post your name, home address, phone, bank account, credit card and PIN numbers. Leave all of your jewelry, art, cash and expensive furniture and electronics sitting out in your house. Leave your front door wide open, with a sign in the yard. The sign must tell the homeless and drug addicted souls of Wheeling that they are free to help themselves to your property.

Or, are you a hypocrite, like all liberals? Do you only believe in stealing OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY? You down wit OPP?

H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E.

“The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.”

“If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the general welfare, the government is no longer a limited one possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one subject to particular exceptions.”

Think about something. Why would the Founders go to the trouble of writing, debating and ratifying a Constitution that clearly spells out the limited powers of the federal government, only to negate all of that effort with the addition of the words "General Welfare"? Why bother listing the renumerated powers? Why not just say "Congress to promote the General Welfare" and be done with it?

The Founders clearly believed in limited government. The 10th Amendment bears this out.

Gaysongs-"The only way ObaMao gets his plan anywhere is to try to do it by "executive order"

"The majority party in congress will use this to try to "sell" this healthcare thing, but it won't change the outcome. It still won't pass."

"Poor Nancy can't get it. It's over for health care "reform"."

"What I find absurd is that the majority party refuses to even entertain an amendment to prohibit abortion funding in this "reform" plan"

"there won't be any bill at all because enough members of the majority party want to be re-elected."

"Domestically, there will be no cap and trade, no health care "reform""

Gaysongs, wrong on Health Care Reform, WRONG on every post he has written.

By the way, I think the car dealers DID get their money.

Remember next time you waste time reading a Gaysongs post,,,its

“Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.”

James Madison-FATHER OF THE CONSTITUTION:

“With respect to the two words ‘general welfare,’ I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.”

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

The Preamble is a statement. It is not a law or a right. The Constitution exists to place a limitation on the powers of government. If you don't like the Constitution, there is an Amendment process. Any other action, either violence of the use of liberal judges, is unconstitutional.

I realize that the Constitution is a pain in the ass for you liberals. You like to say that it was written by slaveowners who thought of woman as property. LIES! Of 39 signers of the Constitution, only 11 owned slaves. None viewed women as property!

I hear a lot of slander against men like Thomas Jefferson because he owned slaves. What you fail to realize is this. Slaves were considered property, an asset. TJ was in debt his whole life; his creditors would not allow him to free his slaves, as they were a money producing asset.

Your bank, today, would not let you give away its' collateral. It was the same, then, for many slaveowners, many of whom were in debt like TJ.

The Preamble is just that. A preamble. The powers of the government can be sited by article, section, and clause. The term “general welfare” has been misused for decades by liberals to overstep the powers granted by the Constitution. So I’m still waiting for you to tell me the article and section numbers that give the government the vast powers they will be granted by this health insurance scam.

Vote every jerk weed that supports this criminal act (masked as legislation) out of office.

Within ONE FRIGGEN HOUR of taking office, he announced he had CHANGED his position and now FAVORS the Pelosi plan!!!!! Moral: how does a Liberal win in a conservative district: LIE LIE LIE through his teeth! The voters of NY23 got hosed!

Another example of seizing power at all costs!! It’s all about POOOOOOOOWEEEEEEER, not about health care for those who cannot afford it, stupid!

Goo Luck getting ANY answer from this A F T DUD!

Former'Yes Gomer1 is thrilled to be an Obamabot! Just check out the posts.

Ellis--7:15--Don't confuse the Obamabots with facts.

wonder,...yes, I'm stirring IT,..........AGAIN! because you just can't stand it....LOL LOL lol

I am for health care reform. And I previously posted free market initiatives to reduce health care costs and increase access. But, my solutions do not give power to the government so, the entitlement mentality crowd (Social Democrat voters) will not go along.

No one wants to have to pay for their health care yet, removing people from the true cost of anything leads them to use more of it, often in an irresponsible manner.

Has anyone asked each and every doctor how they will provide the care?

Spare me the polls, studies, etc. Common sense dictates that a nation with less than 900,000 doctors cannot possibly provide the same level of care to all patients if you dump 44 + new patients on each doctor.

Of course, if you ARE interested in doctor's opinions, only 18% belong to the AMA. The doctors at the Mayo Clinic are OPPOSED to the Democrat plan.

"The Mayo Clinic, world-renowned for its excellence in medicine, unanimously called the current plan bad for America. The united voice of the Clinic's doctors is significant. Many of America's best doctors practice medicine there."

1) The bill will be posted online to give everyone enough time to read it before the vote.

False.

2) The bill will be concise and easy to understand.

False. 2,000 pages of bureucrat speak is too much to ask anyone.

3) The bill will not add ONE DIME to the deficit.

False. It may not add to this year's DEFICIT but it will add to the DEBT, which will increase FUTURE deficits.

4) We have to pass the bill to help people now.

False. It will not kick in for 4 years.

5) We will cover all Americans.

False. 8 million will be left out-by Pelosi's count.

6) Taxpayers are the Golden Goose. We can keep milking them for money.

False. This country is broke. If you took the combined wealth of every American and added it up, we would still owe $18 trillion in debt, and that is RIGHT NOW.