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Drill Vote Delayed

Natural gas would be piped from the parks

By CASEY JUNKINS Staff Writer
POSTED: October 7, 2009

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WHEELING - Councilman Vernon Seals wants to visit some of Chesapeake Appalachia's natural gas drilling sites in Marshall County before allowing the company to work on city property.

Council members Gloria Delbrugge, Robert "Herk" Henry, James Tiu, Don Atkinson, Vice Mayor Eugene Fahey, Mayor Andy McKenzie and Seals voted unanimously Tuesday to table the resolution allowing Chesapeake to drill on city-owned land near Oglebay and Wheeling parks. Members agreed to reconsider the matter during the Oct. 20 meeting, after Seals and Delbrugge said they had a lack of information on the issue.

Though the Wheeling Park Commission has approved the lease allowing the company to drill on its property at Wheeling and Oglebay parks, city officials want to gain more information about the potential environmental impact of Chesapeake's work before allowing the company to drill on city property.

"I think this council as a whole, and the management and administration, should go down for a tour to have some of this process shown to us," Seals said. The councilman made his comments after listening to several concerned residents and also James Gardill, the attorney representing the park commission in the matter.

During a public hearing prior to the vote, city residents Bruce Edinger and Douglas Sarkis expressed concern about how drilling into the Marcellus Shale layer of the Earth below the land around the parks would impact the resorts. Gardill, meanwhile, did his best to assure council and residents that the process would leave the parks in good shape.

"I am a frequent visitor to the park. I am very concerned about this," Edinger said.

Sarkis said abandoned gas wells on his property have troubled him.

"Oil and gas companies have destroyed the state of West Virginia, as the coal mines have. These companies are ruthless," he said.

Gardill, though, said the park commission is doing everything possible to ensure the land used by the public is protected.

"This is a very responsible step in trying to secure the future of the parks," he said. "The revenue will support the free use of the facilities."

For land titled to the"city of Wheeling" or the "Wheeling Park Commission" within Oglebay Park, the profits from drilling would be equally divided between the two entities. Royalties from properties titled to "Wheeling Park" would be used to improve that facility.

"The drill sites are subject to the absolute approval of the park commission," Gardill said, noting the sites have not yet been chosen.

For those expressing concerns about traffic and noise the drilling may cause, Gardill admitted this would be an issue. He also reminded those in attendance that Chesapeake may yet decide not to drill at all.

"There is no set date for drilling," Gardill said, noting the lease will last for five years. If Chesapeake does not act within that amount of time, they must renegotiate the lease.

But Delbrugge said council needs more time to decide how to vote because members only received the information Friday.

"After listening to the public hearing, I have listened to people's concerns, and since we just received this in our council packet Friday, I really have not had time to read through everything. I understand the concerns, and I would like to ask more questions as we learn more about this over the next two weeks." Delbrugge said. The councilwoman's statement drew applause from many of those in attendance.

G. Randolph Worls, president of the Oglebay Foundation, has said the potential drilling could yield "significant dollars." In addition to park and city property, Worls said there are 10 to 12 private property owners with adjoining land who also have been approached concerning the drilling.

A damage clause in the agreement says the company would be responsible for "all surface damages caused by lessee's operations to improvements, landscaping, growing crops, trees and timber."

 
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TimothyHarriman
10-08-09 9:56 PM
I've read the description of The Wheeling Park Commission (Posted by "preserveourparks")and it seems clear that: The commission has authority "for the proper care, equipment and management of the parks". Not to develop energy sources.

The land belongs to Wheeling "the parks of the City of Wheeling."

It is the commission's job to manage the PARKS Not the gas, or coal, or even the GOLD, if it existed.

TruthinPolitics
10-08-09 8:19 PM
Just so you people know, nobody in Wetzel County is getting rich from the gas drilling. The truth is natural gas is cheap and the chances of the park actually making enough money to make a difference is very slight.

TruthinPolitics
10-08-09 8:19 PM
Just so you people know, nobody in Wetzel County is getting rich from the gas drilling. The truth is natural gas is cheap and the chances of the park actually making enough money to make a difference is very slight.

preserveourparks
10-08-09 3:21 PM
***********wheelingwv.gov/citygovernment.php?id=215 The Wheeling Park Commission, a West Virginia Corporation, was created by an act of the legislature of the State of West Virginia on March 5, 1935 for the purpose of managing the parks of the City of Wheeling. The state statute provides that the Commission shall have all and sole power necessary, convenient and advisable for the proper care, equipment and management of the parks and shall make such rules and regulations as it deems expedient for the care and management of the parks. The Commission consists of five members who are citizens of the City of Wheeling and serve without compensation. Members of the Commission are appointed by either the Board of Directors of the Wheeling Chambers of Commerce or by the City Manager.

preserveourparks
10-08-09 2:15 PM
I feel the separate property ownership is a real problem. Are these Wheeling City Parks, or are they not? How can some of the property be under the control of the City of Wheeling, and other properties controlled on ly by the park commission? Were taxpayer dollars used to acquire any of these properties? Is there a separate private corporation set up for these properties? Are City dollars used to maintain and/or improve these properties deeded to the commission? Are the attorney fees for these property leases, not under City Council control, paid for with taxpayer monies?

Mr. Gardill, attorney for the Wheeling Park Commission stated, properties deeded to the Wheeling Park Commission, do not require Wheeling City Council permission to enter into lease agreements. They certainly should need permission to spend one penny of taxpayer funds for any item relating to any property deeded to the Wheeling Park Commission!

preserveourparks
10-08-09 1:58 PM
Wheeling Park Commission Board Members Roland Hobbs Susan Farnsworth Wilbur S. Jones, Jr. Ogden Nutting Dr. Donald Hofreuter These are your "overseers", the decision making body.

Of course, none of these people, nor Mr. Worls, are elected by taxpayers. They are accountable to City Council.

These persons are responsible for approving the leases to drill on Park properties deeded in the name of the Wheeling Park Commission.

The opinion of the Commission is the drilling is something that "cannont be ruled by committee" (City Council), therefore, should the Wheeling City Council grant permission to drill on the remaining 800+/- acres deeded to The City of Wheeling, they want full authority for negotiations, oversight and decisions making relating to the drilling process.

rogers7
10-08-09 9:19 AM
Truthinpolitics is right. Just take a ride on Rt. 89 in wetzel/marshall county and talk to some of the people who live out there. Ask them about the noise, traffic, and permanent destruction.

TimothyHarriman
10-08-09 5:30 AM
Ken... Burn's National Parks series on PBS (see previous post)

Sorry about the 3 posts in a row. But I am interested in the answers to these questions.

TimothyHarriman
10-08-09 5:24 AM
By SHELLEY HANSON POSTED: March 26, 2009 Wharton, along with fellow commissioners Tim McCormick and David Sims, approved the county's $12,125,827 fiscal 2009-10 budget -(Wheeling Intelligencer)

August 3, 2009 By CASEY JUNKINS Staff Writer

WHEELING — City Council is set to begin the process this week of providing 3 percent pay raises for the city’s nearly 400 employees.-(Wheeling Intelligencer)

Wheeling Park Commission has only two parks--400-acre Wheeling Park, located in the heart of the city, and 1600-acre Oglebay Park, two miles from downtown--but the agency has an annual budget of $20 million and a staff of 1200, 550 of them full-time.-(3w's, tpl,org/tier3_cd.cfm?content_item_id=1126&folder_id=826)

The Wheeling Park Commission is obviously larger than city government. They have more money, and more employees. Who exactly are they accountable to? Who has oversight? How do they spend all our money? Or Am I Wrong, is it our park? Maybe I've been watching too much of Ken

TimothyHarriman
10-08-09 5:19 AM
By SHELLEY HANSON POSTED: March 26, 2009 Wharton, along with fellow commissioners Tim McCormick and David Sims, approved the county's $12,125,827 fiscal 2009-10 budget -(Wheeling Intelligencer)

August 3, 2009 By CASEY JUNKINS Staff Writer

WHEELING — City Council is set to begin the process this week of providing 3 percent pay raises for the city’s nearly 400 employees.-(Wheeling Intelligencer)

Wheeling Park Commission has only two parks--400-acre Wheeling Park, located in the heart of the city, and 1600-acre Oglebay Park, two miles from downtown--but the agency has an annual budget of $20 million and a staff of 1200, 550 of them full-time.-(***********tpl****/tier3_cd.cfm?content_item_id=1126&folder_id=826)

By SHELLEY HANSON POSTED: March 26, 2009 Wharton, along with fellow commissioners Tim McCormick and David Sims, approved the county's $12,125,827 fiscal 2009-10 budget -(Wheeling Intelligencer)

August 3, 2009 By CASEY JUNKINS Staff Writer

WHEELING — City Coun

MeanStreak
10-07-09 9:03 PM
Rover1958 the land that I am talking about is NOT for extendign the park as the "Park" There is off of Edgington Lane, Park View Lane, Off Rt. 88 near Dement, back side of Belvodere, Peters Run, and so and so on. The majority of land is not going to be developed for the Park. It was aquired through different avenues I am sure with lots donated.

TruthinPolitics
10-07-09 9:01 PM
Oglebay Park is the best part of the city of Wheeling. Research the process and it is clear this will ruin the park. What about all those expensive homes there? Does anyone care about the people who live there? Clearly, when the Oglebay family left this land to the city this is not what they intended. It will not provide local jobs either, the workers at these wells are from Texas, New Mexico, everywhere but here. Come to Wetzel County and get a first hand view of the destruction.

rover1958
10-07-09 8:31 PM
Rand01 is right. The outcome of their 'tour' will be 'a good tour and a good lunch was had by all'

They would be better served by watching the Penn State video on fracing a natural gas well that I listed down below in an earlier post.

Randy01
10-07-09 8:25 PM
So........ who is going to decide what sites to tour? The gas company of course!!! Would anyone like to guess the outcome of this tour?

DoWhatsRightonce
10-07-09 8:23 PM
Go To YouTube....Search on..."Fracing a Gas Well" OR "Fracing a Gas Well WV"...or "Shale Natural Gas Fracturing" watch 3 mins of real life examples, and you will think twice about doing this to our only parks.

BurningUp07
10-07-09 5:04 PM
Drilling in a public park that is supposed to be for the community and drilling in an ocean or out in the middle of barren Wyoming are two different things. If Oglebay is really truly that hard up for money I might, and that's a big might, agree with it. But not until I see Oglebay's numbers and what they've done with their dough for the past 10+ years.

wonderwhy
10-07-09 4:46 PM
steelercrazy-

I know several people that speak of the mountain top removal. The pictures are revolting. Is that Massey Coal?

wonderwhy
10-07-09 4:44 PM
Thanks. I rode down to Wetzel county yesterday, and last week went by one in Washington County. For anyone to think that this will not be intrusive and possibly detrimental to the area and particularly the Parks would be turning a blind eye. It's really too bad if this goes through.

AlexanderShulgin
10-07-09 4:15 PM
Any opinions from the Shrader environmental center- located in oglebay park.

preserveourparks
10-07-09 4:14 PM
The drilling companies will drill anywhere someone is willing to allow them, if they believe they have a reasonable chance of hitting a large pocket of gas. There is also video on you tube of a gas well set up in the middle of a housing complex. I do hope the apartments were not occupied.

rover1958
10-07-09 4:09 PM
wonderwhy would like to see one of these sites. This paper will not accept posting web sites directly, however:

go to google and look up geology dot com. go there.use the search engine in the geology dot com site to search for 'fracing a natural gas well video'. once there, scroll down and watch the video called fracing a natural gas well. Prepare to nearly pass out when you see the numbers of water trucks, workers, mud, action, noise, general mess and confusion.

wonderwhy
10-07-09 3:49 PM
steelercrazy-

thanks.

steelercrazy
10-07-09 3:46 PM
Carollee, google Kayford Mountain, Chinese rivers, or Chernobyl (especially human side effect, that will take your appetite away for a day or so) and tell me whose fault it is? God gives humans free will, and some humans have used that gift to rape our planet. Being responsible for our environment and leaving this planet in better shape than when we entered it is the duty of everyone.

This is not a partisan issue (the Bush Administration and WV state and national elected Democrats could not have cared less about our state and its people being utterly decimated in SW WV).

@wonderwhy: See, we can agree on something 8)

florida
10-07-09 3:40 PM
The Devil is always in the Details. This idea to drill for natural gas is premature at best and potentially an ecological disaster waiting to happen at its worst. There's more than land at play here. There's the spirit and pride of the community as well. I've travelled to 25 countries and Oglebay is one of the finest examples of community expression that I've ever seen. Don't jeopardize it for the quick buck.

mernie
10-07-09 3:29 PM
All this talk...why don't they settle the confusion, consternation and uproar by just pointing out the sites they are considering. Then you may or may not have something to crow about.

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