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Amish Looking Upward

By JENNIFER COMPSTON-STROUGH City Editor
POSTED: November 2, 2008

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SOMERTON, Ohio - While many Americans fret over getting to the polls on or before Election Day, local Amish residents are simply waiting to see what happens in this year's presidential race. They believe God will guide society to the right conclusion.

Andy Weaver, an Amish man who lives in the Somerton area, was a customer at a sawmill owned by another member of the Amish community one recent morning. He and mill owner Dennis Miller said their religious beliefs prevent them from taking part in elections; however, both are paying attention to the process.

Miller did not express a preference for a particular candidate.

"We just stay home and pray that hopefully we'll get the right guy," Miller said.

But Weaver, who had read about the presidential race in that morning's edition of The Intelligencer, knows who he would support if he were to vote.

"I like Obama," he said, noting he prefers the demeanor of Illinois Democrat Barack Obama to that of his Republican opponent, John McCain of Arizona.

"When he got blasted, he didn't waiver off his course," Weaver said of Obama. "I think he's the man we need."

Weaver added that he, as a member of the Amish community, generally opposes war and believes Obama has the better plan to withdraw American troops from Iraq.

John Poffenbarger, an assistant professor of political science at Wheeling Jesuit University, said most Amish are not encouraged to vote; however, he said they are not prohibited from doing so by civil regulations. In many cases, their own communities do not prohibit voting, either, he said.

He speculated that the Amish of Belmont and Monroe counties who say they are prohibited from voting are "more conservative" than some groups such as those in Holmes County, Ohio, where the Amish are known to participate in the elections process.

In fact, the Associated Press reports that the Bush campaign hoped for Amish support in Ohio and Pennsylvania during the 2004 presidential election as it sought to defeat challenger John Kerry. When the Amish do vote, they generally support GOP candidates because of their stance on issues such as abortion and gay marriage.

About 180,000 Amish live in 28 U.S. states and parts of Canada. The conservative, Christian subculture descended from Swiss Germans. They inhabit rural areas, usually without cars, telephones, televisions or many other modern conveniences as part of their lives.

Some reasons Poffenbarger offered for Amish choosing not to vote include that they believe running for office is arrogant and does not fit with their values of humility and modesty. He also said holding office would violate their desire to separate themselves and their community from the rest of the world.

And any Amish citizens who would decide to vote might encounter some obstacles.

Tim Quinn, a constituent liaison with Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner's Voting Rights Institute, said Amish voters would be required to give some form of accepted identification when registering to vote or casting a ballot. He acknowledged this could prove difficult for the Amish, who do not pose for photographs or drive motor vehicles. For these reasons, it is unlikely an Amish citizen would be able to produce a driver's license or state-issued photo identification card.

Other forms of identification that are considered acceptable include utility bills, bank statements, insurance cards, Social Security cards, a government-issued check or a letter or note from a public school or university. These also could be hard for an Amish person to come by, since they generally do not use electricity or other utility services, do not participate in Social Security or insurance programs and are educated in community schools.

"It's definitely a tough situation," Quinn said. "The bottom line is, to register you have to provide a valid form of ID or the registration is deemed invalid.

"We wouldn't be able to make exceptions for a particular group or culture."

Belmont County Elections Director William Shubat said he is unsure whether any Amish have registered to vote locally this year; the registration deadline was Oct. 6, and the general election is Tuesday. He agreed with Quinn that if any Amish did register in Belmont County, valid identification would have been required.

At the polls, though, Shubat said an Amish citizen - or any citizen for that matter - could cast a provisional, paper ballot "with no ID at all." He said the voter would then have 10 days to produce their identification in order for their ballot to be counted when the election is officially certified.

Joe and Elizabeth Yoder, an Amish couple with 10 children who live along Belmont County 102, said they have paid little attention to the current presidential race, but Joe mentioned that members of the Amish community do use a democratic process to make decisions within their church.

"We're more worried about our own selves," he said, noting members of his community are prohibited from taking part in elections that involve local, state and national issues and races.

Elizabeth said she has heard other people talking about the presidential campaign, but she has chosen not to become involved and has no opinion on the contest.

"We just stay at home and pray for the best," she said.

 
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HenryC
11-04-08 1:33 AM
Ellis - maybe you should join the Amish. Sounds like you think they have a good thing going.

NancySI
11-03-08 10:06 PM
Ellie, I quit reading your crap a long time ago. You finally got something right.

EllisWyatt
11-03-08 5:46 PM
You people are ridiculous. I don't believe you even read my posts. Did you not read what I wrote?

I admire the Amish. I respect them for their simple lives and for maintaining their culture in today's world. I feel that we should leave them alone, if that is what they wish.

I also said that we did not get to be the world's lone superpower by sitting on the sidelines. This nation was built by blood, sweat, tears, courage, faith, discipline, moral values and a great work ethic. Our people vote for the people who represent us. Our soldiers fight for us and keep us safe. Our citizens volunteer and give billions to help the less fortunate. We are required to be stuck in Social Security & Medicare.

Amish people don't participate in social welfare programs. Why can't I get an exemption? The Amish don't vote. How do they think national policy is made? The Amish don't serve in the military. Where do they think their freedoms come from?

2 years in the military like Israel, I say.

HenryC
11-03-08 9:57 AM
Sorry, that comment is directed towards Ellis.

HenryC
11-03-08 9:56 AM
Last time I checked, the president cannot unilaterally change our legal system and overthrow our Constitution. Why even bother putting those points forward? Hyperbolic......

wonderwhy
11-03-08 7:28 AM
jeffww-

no ellis hasn't lost his mind. his mind is full of hate and deciet. sort of like Mccain's campaign and the fake posters on here. 'like begets like' let's just have faith that these kinds of thought are stuck in the hills of wv and not a complete meltdown of the society of the country.

HenryC
11-03-08 5:28 AM
I have the utmost admiration, respect, and gratitude for every military member of our nation. But requiring military service as a point of law is unconstitutional, which is what these brave soldiers have fought to uphold.

HenryC
11-03-08 5:27 AM
Forcing everyone to serve in the military? Marxist-Leninist socialist/communist agenda. We would truly be a socialist country at that point. Freedom from conscription is one of our basic Constitutional rights on which our country was founded.

NancySI
11-03-08 1:22 AM
So they interview Mr. Weaver and he says he has a preference for Obama. Then the article goes on to say that the Amish generally vote for Republicans?

youngbloodWheelingroots
11-02-08 8:07 PM
Ellis, I don't know what you are more: sick, or ignorant.

Not only are you bigoted against Islam and have only a stereotyped understanding of what it represents as a world religion, you don't understand the basic principle that freedom includes the right to both not vote and loathe military service.

Try to wrap your mind a bit more tightly around those things before continuing to post. You make yourself look "parochial" otherwise.

whisperinghope
11-02-08 8:03 PM
Having served my country, I think it is a duty of everyone who lives in this country to serve in some sort of way. I am all for requiring everyone and I mean everyone to serve 2 years, both male and female. You want to live in thie country but be separate from it? Come on give me a break! You can serve in many ways. The Amish are good people yes, but it's time everyone takes part in supporting our nation. You can love peace. I do, but they enjoy religous freedoms because someone else does the job??

HenryC
11-02-08 7:03 PM
Ellis - You don't want Obama to touch our Constitution, but want to change the voting laws? So a vote for Obama means we don't pay taxes? Don't serve our country? Laughable....on both counts.

EllisWyatt
11-02-08 5:29 PM
We need to change the laws in this nation. If you do not contribute, either through military service or actual tax payments, you should not be permitted to vote. Of course, taxpayers and military personnel vote Republican so the Social Democrats would not allow this.

SphinxRising58
11-02-08 10:33 AM
EllisWyatt: Well Ellis, there re a lot of people in the states that do not wish to serve in the armed forces, but still injoy all the benifits, but atleast the Amish do so out of religious beliefs, & not just because they invision themselves to be some radical anarchist.

CTMountaineer
11-02-08 9:16 AM
Actually, I think the Amish do respect the flag. They are just peacenicks. During the age of the draft they served as combat medics.

EllisWyatt
11-02-08 9:01 AM
I always find it amusing that certain religious groups don't respect our flag, say the Pledge, celebrate national holidays, serve in the military or vote yet they have no problem with living under the freedoms provided by people who vote and fight for them.

You can't sit on the fence. You are loyal to the US or you are not. If you contribute nothing (and I am talking to you First Of The Month Folks as well) then you have no right to benefit.

EllisWyatt
11-02-08 8:58 AM
I admire the Amish but these peaceniks need to realize that we are at war with a religion of fanatics who are constantly dreaming up ways to kill the Great Satan (us). All other issues aside, do homosexuals, feminists and other religions believe that Obama's surrender to Islamic terrorists will benefit them? Homosexuals, feminists and non-believers would be the first to be raped and killed.

It is okay to be against war. Noone in their right mind wants war. Unfortunately, sticking your head in the sand won't make the problem go away. These wackos want us dead and it is a clear choice between us and them. If we can kill enough of them, they may tire of the war and they may embrace some sort of compromise that gives them more economic freedom, etc.

You can oppose war but you cannot avoid it. The Amish would be hanging from trees if Muslims took over this country. Obama will allow others to dictate the policies of this nation. THAT is unacceptable.

HenryC
11-02-08 7:27 AM
In America, voting is a right not a duty. And no one is compelled to military service as per our Constitution. The social contract in the US allows people these freedoms. There are lots of people who don't vote and don't serve in the armed forces.

Whisperinghope: you should check out other articles in this paper that give such wonderful zingers as : "...the economy is SOO messed up because we are not following God's will."

whisperinghope
11-02-08 12:21 AM
Some reasons Poffenbarger offered for Amish choosing not to vote include that they believe running for office is arrogant and does not fit with their values of humility and modesty. He also said holding office would violate their desire to separate themselves and their community from the rest of the world.

This really bothers me. For ppl to live in this great country with all it's freedoms and not vote, not serve in the armed forces just doesn't seem right. God's will???? They may someday find themselves sorry they didn't vote.

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